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#1 thorium

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Posted 12 May 2011 - 04:34 AM

http://www.gekgasifi...3&pictureid=124

http://www.gekgasifi...3&pictureid=125

its not done yet but

the compressor pumps in to a tank filled with steel grits from a sand blasting supply place and at the bottom a sintered strainer drains things then the stainless steel pressure maintainer controls it

should i soak some grits in nickel or copper sulfate or what not before cooking

what should i do with the waste gases



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Posted 12 May 2011 - 06:41 PM

Besides waste heat, what about start heat? Don't you need something to initiate the reaction?

It looks like you are going low pressure, but be careful about pressure. That tank won't hold the same pressure at the elevated temps.

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Posted 12 May 2011 - 10:23 PM

Yes, and the pressure. Some can work with atmospheric pressure but they are all at high heat.

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Posted 13 May 2011 - 05:53 AM

thanks for the response

cec0172 wrote
> I'm working on something with similar properties but much smaller.
size does not mater its all camera tricks + pics or it never happed + i want see it

http://www.gekgasifi...4&pictureid=127

trying to use the heat pump effect of the compressor at 350F for startup heat
and to cool it an old ac coil or hydronic exchanger on top

R-22 AC equipment is rated for propane called R-290 at 600psi Water Oil Gas & -40degF to +366degF if braised "not soldered"

pressure tank is "K cylinder" or some shit 3600psi cold
compressor head will blow first any way

if U use CH4 + CO2 use nickel catalyst on top to get more supercritical fluid reflux in your column
CO supercritical at about 508 psi

pro tip:pentane at 508psi & 455degK[wolframalpha.com]
or octane at 80psi & 350degF pores out the bottom right?

lite fractions reside longer as gases could recrack & reGTL
but likely are eventually pushed out the bottom with N2 CO2 steam and product

still no opinion on steel blasting grits as catalyst base in reflux tank

any advice on in-situ steam+O2 decokeing





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Posted 14 May 2011 - 03:10 PM

I say order a commercial catalyst. An Iron Synthetic Ammonia. Spend the money to set yourself up for success.

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Posted 15 May 2011 - 03:40 PM

No, I'm not that far. I did see an add for a commercial catalyst supplier. I think it was on a google search. I think the APL crew bough some different ones. Maybe Jay can help you out.

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Posted 20 May 2011 - 11:35 PM

i got my first steel grits
http://www.gekgasifi...5&pictureid=130
http://www.gekgasifi...5&pictureid=131
so bad news it will take like 10~12 bags to fill my reactor and total weight of the unit will be maby 600-800 pounds way to damn heavy i did't stop to think steel is more dense than black beauty slag

since i experiment in a field i may half to assemble in place and cover with a tarp

my plan is now to maby get a band heater for the tank so then it can regenerate the catalysts in situ

book said to:
heat to high temp
steam the carbon out
hydrogen reduce it
ammonia gas to nitrate it

don't let air hit catalysts or you need start over

could that all be combined if i use no additive commercial ammonia cleaner in a steam cleaner with some sodium metal to change some water to hydrogen

after water testing the tank and fittings to 600psi i blew the water out at 80psi and the copper pipe was 310degF with 60degF air input so if gasifier gas is hot it'll pump in lots of heat

acetylene is a promoter and h2o it a inhibitor and surfer is bad to catalysts

to fix all that in stead of a water bubbler could i use an old acetylene tank to filter syn gas
if drawn up from the bottom first the gas hits CaO that falls down loosing sulfur then passes threw the carbide converting H2O to acetylene C2H2
tar gypsum would be nasty by product
carbide can be made with a welder

so anybody got crazy ideas on this stuff
pics aren't necessary i was just teasing him

protip: a tier nitrogen generator dumps oxygen out the back





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Posted 24 May 2011 - 10:24 AM

Yes it is very important for Opensource that I cite references so have at some!

Kinetics of the Fischer-Tropsch Synthesis on Iron Catalysts
look for cat prep section

Addition of Acetylene to the Fischer-Tropsch Reaction

Impact of Promoters on the Performance of the Skeleton Iron

my philosophy of construction is find a trick add it to my rig evolving a more perfect union
more tricks i am missing

alkali in fischer tropsch
chromium oxide as a promoter
recracking undesired gases and radical formation

Raney nickel/iron production for porosity
any body know how to make metal whiskers on catalysts

lots behind pay walls so go to a university computer and get a copy

other mess up compressor should bolt to gasifier to shake it not the filter or GTL reactor







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